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#285942 - 04/17/10 06:52 AM Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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http://www.youtube.com/user/cvp409gp#p/a/u/1/dSxWqt7srjA



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#285943 - 04/17/10 07:05 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jerryghr:
[B] http://www.youtube.com/user/cvp409gp#p/a/u/1/dSxWqt7srjA

If Yamaha marketing saw the very last part of the demo, it would probably be his last demo.

You should be sober when you do these demos.

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#285944 - 04/17/10 07:36 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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In Germany there was a great hit once "who the F*** is Alice, he is referring on that.
It is German humor, i think

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#285945 - 04/17/10 07:53 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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Quote:
Originally posted by Impuls:
In Germany there was a great hit once "who the F*** is Alice, he is referring on that.
It is German humor, i think

Impuls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsrfovOPcjk&feature=related

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#285946 - 04/17/10 08:10 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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I can tell you that everytime I play this song here in DK, people are always chanting in chours: Who the F.... is Alice!

I'm quite sure Mr. Vonken will not lose his job because of this

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#285947 - 04/17/10 08:21 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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Originally posted by Morten Jonassen:
I can tell you that everytime I play this song here in DK, people are always chanting in chours: Who the F.... is Alice!

I'm quite sure Mr. Vonken will not lose his job because of this


I'll try it on my next job, however I think the chant would be "get the f*** out of here and don't ever come back.

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#285948 - 04/17/10 08:31 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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Originally posted by Jerryghr:
I'll try it on my next job, however I think the chant would be "get the f*** out of here and don't ever come back.



To many shortminded people on the other side of the pool. Sometimes i think you people still live in the 1900's

The F... word overhere in europe is allowed in music and songcompostition.. Nothign wrong with that...
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#285949 - 04/17/10 09:31 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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the first 10 seconds were enough for me.

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#285950 - 04/17/10 10:09 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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Bachus,
Right on the mark however not short minded, just a different culture,

Gilbert.

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#285951 - 04/17/10 10:53 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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There is not a person in any of my audiences that doesn't know "the word". But I don't play the kind of places that it is ever used on stage. I suspect if I were to use it at any of my venues, it would be the last time I would ever be employed there again.

Short-minded? Nah. Respectful is more like it.

Eddie

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#285952 - 04/17/10 11:13 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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Originally posted by btweengigs:
There is not a person in any of my audiences that doesn't know "the word". But I don't play the kind of places that it is ever used on stage. I suspect if I were to use it at any of my venues, it would be the last time I would ever be employed there again.

Short-minded? Nah. Respectful is more like it.

Eddie


Hollywood, on the other hand, thinks the F-word is "respectful" enough to enter our living rooms. The F-word's not something I'd like to hear every two minutes either.

List of films that most frequently use the word "f***"
http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/01/14/movies-with-the-most-instances-of-the-f-word/

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#285953 - 04/17/10 01:40 PM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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You've got to understand the attraction to cursing in a foreign language... I've seen altogether too many straight ahead American kids that love to throw a little Latino gutter culture around. Makes you look cool!

From The Matrix Reloaded:

" I have sampled every language, French is my favourite - fantastic language, especially to curse with. Nom de Dieu de putain de bordel de merde de saloperies de connards d'enculs de ta mre. You see, it's like wiping your arse with silk, I love it.
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#285954 - 04/17/10 02:24 PM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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"To many shortminded people on the other side of the pool. Sometimes i think you people still live in the 1900's"

"The F... word overhere in europe is allowed in music and songcompostition.. Nothing wrong with that..."

I wonder how long it will take to go from the music and song composition to the schools, work place, living room and bedroom. No long I think....but "Nothing wrong with that...."
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#285955 - 04/17/10 02:32 PM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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sometimes its hard to be of the generation that watches the moral collapse of our planet.

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#285956 - 04/17/10 02:52 PM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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Originally posted by Machetero:
I wonder how long it will take to go from the music and song composition to the schools, work place, living room and bedroom. No long I think....but "Nothing wrong with that...."


It's nothing to wonder about, it's already there. It's everywhere. The young ones
grab it from the movies mainly made "over there" (read USA), and also from the
music. The F*** word is all over. Too bad, and it's a kind of sad.
Guess I have to start use it in every second word myself, if not, the young ones
won't understand a F***ing sh** of any F***ing word I'm saying.......

Wonder if I'm wrong if I think I remember one of the "Rocky" movies and Sylvester
Stallone actually used the F*** word about all the time?

Cheers
GJ

Btw,
"Nothing wrong with that...."

Who knows, if not the F*** word, there would/will probably be another F***ing F*** word
to replace it, and the snowball continue Rock'nRoll.
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#285957 - 04/17/10 02:56 PM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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Originally posted by Diki:
You've got to understand the attraction to cursing in a foreign language...


Diki, you should try Norwegian, Swedish or Finnish.
Clean poetry....
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#285958 - 04/17/10 03:19 PM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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Originally posted by Tonewheeldude:
sometimes its hard to be of the generation that watches the moral collapse of our planet.


Where have I heard THAT before...?

Oh yes... My grandparents about MY generation (and THEIR grandparents about their generation, and so on and so forth ad infinitum ). Stuff been going to hell in a handbasket since time began...
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#285959 - 04/17/10 04:00 PM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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sadly, i was talking about MY generation.

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#285960 - 04/17/10 07:41 PM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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Originally posted by Tonewheeldude:
sadly, i was talking about MY generation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdRs1gKpe...next=1&index=32

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#285961 - 04/17/10 08:05 PM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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lol...very good. My mother saw The Who play at Wembley....I was working with them some 35 years later at the same venue!

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#285962 - 04/18/10 03:50 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
Where have I heard THAT before...?

Oh yes... My grandparents about MY generation (and THEIR grandparents about their generation, and so on and so forth ad infinitum ). Stuff been going to hell in a handbasket since time began...


now that sounds familiar...

At a certain age people can't keep up with the continous changing society and then start to behave like this, its only natural.

Just accept that the F... word nowerdays has a whole different meaning and aura then 50 years ago...
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#285963 - 04/18/10 04:14 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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why should everyone accept it just because some think its ok?

I don't try and make people stop using profanities...why should they try and force it on those of us that do not want to use them?

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#285964 - 04/18/10 07:02 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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I was born in 1932.
I NEVER heard (until the last few years)the F word ANYWHERE, except in the Factories.
I never heard my grandfather,father,or son or grandson use the word...to MY generation it has ALWAYS been abhorrent and will remain so until the day I die.
I always turn off immediately any programme when the word is used.
It is the ultimately foulest word I have ever heard..this is how I was taught....BUT..
It is the word itself which makes me so angry.....IF we all were to use the another word, like 'fornication', I guess I could accept that................
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#285965 - 04/18/10 08:06 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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Quote:
Originally posted by eddiefromrotherham:
I was born in 1932.
I NEVER heard (until the last few years)the F word ANYWHERE, except in the Factories.
I never heard my grandfather,father,or son or grandson use the word...to MY generation it has ALWAYS been abhorrent and will remain so until the day I die.
I always turn off immediately any programme when the word is used.
It is the ultimately foulest word I have ever heard..this is how I was taught....BUT..
It is the word itself which makes me so angry.....IF we all were to use the another word, like 'fornication', I guess I could accept that................


Well, I guess WTF would still apply , although it doesn't quite roll off the tongue as well.

Diki and Bachus are on the mark with their comments. It's funny how language conventions change. The first time, at age 13, I encountered the F-word, officially, that is, and to much giggling in the classroom, was during an English class reading Chaucer's Canterbury Tales where it's used a few times.

Regarding the F-version of the song, it was a British comedian, Roy 'Chubby' Brown who came out with it and, I did find it amusing on a trip to the UK to hear a bar band play the song with full, good-natured, audience participation at the appropriate points.

Influence-wise, it may be that today's young crowd probably initially picked it up from Rap artists with their urban street tales told in the language of the streets.

Change is constant, things will change again.

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#285966 - 04/18/10 07:02 PM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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Originally posted by Tonewheeldude:
why should everyone accept it just because some think its ok?

I don't try and make people stop using profanities...why should they try and force it on those of us that do not want to use them?



I agree with you.....I raised my family not to use profanity...and in their adult life..still refrain from it..

Nothing shows a lower class than this common "gutter " language...

Also just because each generation is decaying in morals...doesn't make it right.....lowering class is a sad thing, not anything to be proud of...
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#285967 - 04/18/10 09:19 PM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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The more we 'accept', the worse we get ...
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#285968 - 04/18/10 10:57 PM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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Yet somehow it's always the younger generation that gets the blame. But let's take a look at what mess the "older" generation got us in. Last time I checked it's still the older generation that runs the show.

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#285969 - 04/19/10 05:36 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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If you clean up your language but still hate the new neighbor without ever having met them, I'd say that 'language' is the least of your problems. After watching some of the actions and listening to some of the language of some of our fellow citizens protesting the passage of the new healthcare bill, the "F" word seems kind of mild by comparison. What's needed in this country, IMO, is a fundamental attitudinal shift. I think that the "moral decay" that you think you are witnessing now, has more to do with how we feel about and treat, our fellow man. The strong negative reaction to the "F" word probably has more to do with this generation's (40-80) general "uptightness" about sex than any concern about the decay of morality. I also suspect that those who refrain from using it and have "taught their families to refrain from using it", still mutter it under their breath under the right circumstances (another driver cut you off----while talking on his cell phone, some drunk spilled a drink on your brand new Audya, wife reminds you that you just forgot their anniversary yet another year , your sixteen-year-old dents the car on his/her very first solo drive after getteing their license, etc.).

What's in a word? What's in your heart, that's the important question.

JMO.

chas

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#285970 - 04/19/10 06:19 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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Originally posted by cgiles:
If you clean up your language but still hate the new neighbor without ever having met them, I'd say that 'language' is the least of your problems. After watching some of the actions and listening to some of the language of some of our fellow citizens protesting the passage of the new healthcare bill, the "F" word seems kind of mild by comparison. What's needed in this country, IMO, is a fundamental attitudinal shift. I think that the "moral decay" that you think you are witnessing now, has more to do with how we feel about and treat, our fellow man. The strong negative reaction to the "F" word probably has more to do with this generation's (40-80) general "uptightness" about sex than any concern about the decay of morality. I also suspect that those who refrain from using it and have "taught their families to refrain from using it", still mutter it under their breath under the right circumstances (another driver cut you off----while talking on his cell phone, some drunk spilled a drink on your brand new Audya, wife reminds you that you just forgot their anniversary yet another year , your sixteen-year-old dents the car on his/her very first solo drive after getteing their license, etc.).

What's in a word? What's in your heart, that's the important question.

JMO.

chas

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I wholeheartedly agree, Chas. And... guilty as charged.

Taike

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#285971 - 04/19/10 10:25 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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Quote:
Originally posted by Impuls:
In Germany there was a great hit once "who the F*** is Alice, he is referring on that.
It is German humor, i think

Impuls


Its one of my favorite songs, first i heard it in 1994 and have it since then.
Right here: http://www.speedyshare.com/files/22022081/Div._Kunstnere_-_Alice.mp3

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#285972 - 04/19/10 10:37 AM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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My friend Chas hits another "home run"!

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#285973 - 04/19/10 02:45 PM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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Originally posted by captain Russ:
My friend Chas hits another "home run"!

R.


I thought it was more of a "blooper" into "shallow" right field...
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#285974 - 04/20/10 02:07 PM Re: Demo of "what not to do on a gig with your Tyros3"
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Every swear word that YOU think is acceptable was as shocking to a previous generation as you think the 'F' word is now. That is the plain fact of the matter. YOU are as big a disappointment to previous generations as the kids today are to YOU.

And, as Chas points out, there are FAR uglier things in today's society than language. Some of which have been expressed here quite publicly by those who would be outraged at the 'F'-word. That mote in someone's eye is FAR easier to complain about than do something about the beam in your own, isn't it?

Pick a swear word you DO think 'acceptable'... Imagine saying it at the tender age of sixteen to your grandparents. Imagine the tanning your hide would have got! Imagine them going 'I hate to be of the generation that watches the moral collapse of our planet' and you thinking 'What a right fuddy-duddy!' and 'I'll never think like THAT!'

Welcome to the onset of senility....
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